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Gregory S
Hunters Beware - Misrepresentation & Outright Lies at Mountain Creek Ranches in Bandera/Medina, Texas
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I am extremely disappointed in the experience at Mountain Creek Ranches, and the treatment my hunting party received while guests of Mountain Creek Ranches in Bandera/Medina, Texas. A member of our party visited this ranch in June of 2023, where he spoke with the ranch foreman, Ken Upchurch, and the owner, Debby Upchurch. The visit was great. He toured the two tracts of land totaling 700 acres managed by the pair and saw some animals while visiting. After the visit, our group of three decided to book a trip for the week of Thanksgiving. During the June visit, we were told the rules were as follows: we could shoot two whitetail deer (one doe and one buck (no restrictions),) two axis deer (one doe and one buck,) and other “exotics” if we saw them (goats, hogs, etc.) We were happy with these rules, and I was very excited about the trip, as it was my first-time hunting in Texas.
Everything changed upon arrival at the ranch. First, they changed the rules: we were no longer allowed to shoot whitetail does or whitetail bucks under an 8-point with a 13-inch spread and we’d be charged a $500.00 fine for shooting a whitetail doe. We were still allowed to shoot axis deer and exotics. This severely limited our ability to hunt. Of our group of three, only one of us saw an axis deer; none of us saw any exotic animals for the duration of the trip. We saw plenty of does and smaller bucks, but no deer we could actually shoot. I spoke with a guide to ask when they implemented the rule change and was told, “It’s always been that way.”
Second, the schedule we were given changed constantly. We would be told we were hunting on one tract of land, and two hours later it would be changed. Additionally, Ken interrupted our hunts 30 minutes prior to when they should have ended, causing the only whitetail buck large enough to shoot to get spooked and run off before my buddy had a chance to get a shot off. Ken laughed at this missed opportunity. One morning we were told it was “too cold” for us to be out there, and the next “the fog is too thick.” During all my hunts, I never saw an animal I could shoot, and I never saw any buck Texas is supposed to be famous for. Nowhere close to the 4.1 deer density per acre that Debby bragged about. Not upset that we did not see a lot of animals or the ones that we were looking for. That’s hunting. Had there been no rule change we did see enough whitetail bucks and does to tag out and not come home emptyhanded.
It was very clear that we were told one set of rules to get us to book the trip, only to have them changed upon arrival. We spoke to several other hunters disgruntled by the same things mentioned above along with the fact that there were only 11 working stands for 21 hunters. 21 hunters on 700 acres is not feasible. If all hunters showed up at the same time, there is no way all could be accommodated. We were so frustrated by the end of the week that we left a day early. These people clearly are not interested in ensuring their guests have a great experience - they are only interested in scamming hunters out of their hard-earned money and packing their land with as many of those hunters they can screw over. Please don’t waste your money on this place. There are better people and better clubs out there that will put you and your experience first.
I am extremely disappointed in the experience at Mountain Creek Ranches, and the treatment my hunting party received while guests of Mountain Creek Ranches in Bandera/Medina, Texas. A member of our party visited this ranch in June of 2023, where he spoke with the ranch foreman, Ken Upchurch, and the owner, Debby Upchurch. The visit was great. He toured the two tracts of land totaling 700 acres managed by the pair and saw some animals while visiting. After the visit, our group of three decided to book a trip for the week of Thanksgiving. During the June visit, we were told the rules were as follows: we could shoot two whitetail deer (one doe and one buck (no restrictions),) two axis deer (one doe and one buck,) and other “exotics” if we saw them (goats, hogs, etc.) We were happy with these rules, and I was very excited about the trip, as it was my first-time hunting in Texas.
Everything changed upon arrival at the ranch. First, they changed the rules: we were no longer allowed to shoot whitetail does or whitetail bucks under an 8-point with a 13-inch spread and we’d be charged a $500.00 fine for shooting a whitetail doe. We were still allowed to shoot axis deer and exotics. This severely limited our ability to hunt. Of our group of three, only one of us saw an axis deer; none of us saw any exotic animals for the duration of the trip. We saw plenty of does and smaller bucks, but no deer we could actually shoot. I spoke with a guide to ask when they implemented the rule change and was told, “It’s always been that way.”
Second, the schedule we were given changed constantly. We would be told we were hunting on one tract of land, and two hours later it would be changed. Additionally, Ken interrupted our hunts 30 minutes prior to when they should have ended, causing the only whitetail buck large enough to shoot to get spooked and run off before my buddy had a chance to get a shot off. Ken laughed at this missed opportunity. One morning we were told it was “too cold” for us to be out there, and the next “the fog is too thick.” During all my hunts, I never saw an animal I could shoot, and I never saw any buck Texas is supposed to be famous for. Nowhere close to the 4.1 deer density per acre that Debby bragged about. Not upset that we did not see a lot of animals or the ones that we were looking for. That’s hunting. Had there been no rule change we did see enough whitetail bucks and does to tag out and not come home emptyhanded.
It was very clear that we were told one set of rules to get us to book the trip, only to have them changed upon arrival. We spoke to several other hunters disgruntled by the same things mentioned above along with the fact that there were only 11 working stands for 21 hunters. 21 hunters on 700 acres is not feasible. If all hunters showed up at the same time, there is no way all could be accommodated. We were so frustrated by the end of the week that we left a day early. These people clearly are not interested in ensuring their guests have a great experience - they are only interested in scamming hunters out of their hard-earned money and packing their land with as many of those hunters they can screw over. Please don’t waste your money on this place. There are better people and better clubs out there that will put you and your experience first.
翻译：
我对在山溪牧场的经历以及我的狩猎队在德克萨斯州班德拉/麦地那山溪牧场的客人时所受到的待遇感到非常失望。我们一行的一名成员于 2023 年 6 月访问了这个牧场，并与牧场工头 Ken Upchurch 和业主 Debby Upchurch 进行了交谈。这次访问很棒。他参观了两人管理的两块总计700英亩的土地，并在参观时看到了一些动物。参观结束后，我们三人小组决定预订感恩节一周的旅行。在六月份的访问期间，我们被告知规则如下：我们可以射杀两只白尾鹿（一只母鹿和一只雄鹿（无限制）、两只轴鹿（一只母鹿和一只雄鹿）和其他“外来动物”，如果我们看到它们（山羊、猪等），我们对这些规则很满意，我对这次旅行感到非常兴奋，因为这是我第一次在德克萨斯州狩猎。
到达牧场后，一切都发生了变化。首先，他们改变了规则：我们不再被允许以 13 英寸的距离射杀 8 分以下的白尾母鹿或白尾雄鹿，并且如果射杀白尾母鹿，我们将被处以 500 美元的罚款。我们仍然被允许拍摄轴鹿和外来动物。这严重限制了我们的狩猎能力。我们三人一组，只有一个人看到了轴鹿；在旅途中我们没有人看到任何外来动物。我们看到了很多母鹿和较小的雄鹿，但我们实际上没有能射到的鹿。我与一位导游交谈，询问他们何时实施规则变更，并被告知，“一直都是这样。”
其次，给我们的时间表不断变化。我们会被告知我们正在一块土地上狩猎，两小时后它就会改变。此外，肯在我们应该结束的狩猎前 30 分钟打断了我们，导致唯一一只足够大、可以射击的白尾雄鹿在我的伙伴有机会射击之前受到惊吓并逃跑了。肯嘲笑这个错失的机会。一天早上，我们被告知天气“太冷”，不适合我们出去，第二天早上，我们被告知“雾太浓了”。在我所有的狩猎过程中，我从未见过可以射杀的动物，也从未见过德克萨斯州以闻名的雄鹿。与黛比吹嘘的每英亩 4.1 只鹿的密度相去甚远。我们并没有因为没有看到很多动物或我们正在寻找的动物而感到沮丧。这就是狩猎。如果规则没有改变的话，我们确实看到了足够多的白尾鹿，它们会标记出来，不会空手回家。
很明显，我们被告知了一套规则来让我们预订行程，但在抵达时却改变了它们。我们采访了其他几位猎人，他们对上述同样的事情以及只有 11 个工作站可容纳 21 名猎人的事实感到不满。 21个猎人在700英亩的土地上是不可行的。如果所有猎人同时出现，根本无法容纳所有人。这周末我们非常沮丧，所以我们提前一天离开了。这些人显然对确保他们的客人获得良好的体验不感兴趣——他们只感兴趣从猎人的血汗钱中骗走他们的土地，并在他们的土地上塞满他们可以搞砸的猎人。请不要在这个地方浪费你的钱。那里有更好的人和更好的俱乐部，他们会把你和你的经验放在第一位。
我对在山溪牧场的经历以及我的狩猎队在德克萨斯州班德拉/麦地那山溪牧场的客人时所受到的待遇感到非常失望。我们一行的一名成员于 2023 年 6 月访问了这个牧场，并与牧场工头 Ken Upchurch 和业主 Debby Upchurch 进行了交谈。这次访问很棒。他参观了两人管理的两块总计700英亩的土地，并在参观时看到了一些动物。参观结束后，我们三人小组决定预订感恩节一周的旅行。在六月份的访问期间，我们被告知规则如下：我们可以射杀两只白尾鹿（一只母鹿和一只雄鹿（无限制）、两只轴鹿（一只母鹿和一只雄鹿）和其他“外来动物”，如果我们看到它们（山羊、猪等），我们对这些规则很满意，我对这次旅行感到非常兴奋，因为这是我第一次在德克萨斯州狩猎。
到达牧场后，一切都发生了变化。首先，他们改变了规则：我们不再被允许以 13 英寸的距离射杀 8 分以下的白尾母鹿或白尾雄鹿，并且如果射杀白尾母鹿，我们将被处以 500 美元的罚款。我们仍然被允许拍摄轴鹿和外来动物。这严重限制了我们的狩猎能力。我们三人一组，只有一个人看到了轴鹿；在旅途中我们没有人看到任何外来动物。我们看到了很多母鹿和较小的雄鹿，但我们实际上没有能射到的鹿。我与一位导游交谈，询问他们何时实施规则变更，并被告知，“一直都是这样。”
其次，给我们的时间表不断变化。我们会被告知我们正在一块土地上狩猎，两小时后它就会改变。此外，肯在我们应该结束的狩猎前 30 分钟打断了我们，导致唯一一只足够大、可以射击的白尾雄鹿在我的伙伴有机会射击之前受到惊吓并逃跑了。肯嘲笑这个错失的机会。一天早上，我们被告知天气“太冷”，不适合我们出去，第二天早上，我们被告知“雾太浓了”。在我所有的狩猎过程中，我从未见过可以射杀的动物，也从未见过德克萨斯州以闻名的雄鹿。与黛比吹嘘的每英亩 4.1 只鹿的密度相去甚远。我们并没有因为没有看到很多动物或我们正在寻找的动物而感到沮丧。这就是狩猎。如果规则没有改变的话，我们确实看到了足够多的白尾鹿，它们会标记出来，不会空手回家。
很明显，我们被告知了一套规则来让我们预订行程，但在抵达时却改变了它们。我们采访了其他几位猎人，他们对上述同样的事情以及只有 11 个工作站可容纳 21 名猎人的事实感到不满。 21个猎人在700英亩的土地上是不可行的。如果所有猎人同时出现，根本无法容纳所有人。这周末我们非常沮丧，所以我们提前一天离开了。这些人显然对确保他们的客人获得良好的体验不感兴趣——他们只感兴趣从猎人的血汗钱中骗走他们的土地，并在他们的土地上塞满他们可以搞砸的猎人。请不要在这个地方浪费你的钱。那里有更好的人和更好的俱乐部，他们会把你和你的经验放在第一位。
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