下载App
资质规则
旅行
账户
Tiffany H
Gobsmacked by this neglect, clients seeking deep work beware
Joya Spa at Omni Scottsdale Resort的点评
点评：Just, omg. Where do I even begin?
PLEASE read this ESPECIALLY if you plan to try to book DEEP TISSUE massage here as a guest, and DOUBLE ESPECIALLY if you plan to interview at this spa as an LMT. This is critically important to an LMT if you are 5 foot 5 or under.
All of the 1 star reviews are correct. But some insight into why the massages are bad, from a bodyworker who interviewed here. Listen to me very carefully, potential clients and members. DO NOT PAY FOR deeper tissue or therapeutic work here, if you truly want any pressure at all. Just. Do. Not. As I am about to explain, it is impossible to get it at this spa for an absolutely egregious reason.
Unfortunately this joke of a property is using badly made, outdated massage tables that have not been manufactured since the mid 90s. And back then, bodywork and massage was just becoming popular in America. Therapists themselves were barely in existence up until the earlier 2000s. Especially in Arizona.
When therapists began giving input into equipment design LIKE HYDRAULIC MASSAGE TABLES, they are able to share information that helps manufacturers make better designs. Hydraulic table designs have updated themselves a handful of times over the years and just get better.
All this spa had to do is replace their tables from the 90s, just one time in the past 2 decades. Newer hydraulic tables (and I simply mean less than 25 years old....not NEW new), have a VERY wide range of heights. This is for many reasons.
Leverage for therapists providing deep work, so we can set the table at a height that both has proper leverage for us to use our core and legs to lean in with body weight (proper body mechanics), and also to provide proper pressure. I've worked at a handful of places and more so, have interviewed at SEVERAL. Even other places with older tables, they aren't THAT old. THEY CAN BE LOWERED.
Tables should also be adjusted lower for the client to get on and off the table, so they are not having to jump or slide off it. It should be easy for their feet to touch the ground coming off the table. Especially important for anyone with moderate mobility issues (elderly), or anyone shorter.
The table I was to give my practical interview on was AT IT'S LOWEST SETTING and was beyond too high for me. I'm not that short, I am 5'6". Many, many therapists out there are shorter than me. If you are a therapist who is about 5'4" or shorter, forget it. Take it from a therapist of 21 years...their lowest setting is the working settings that a therapist between 5'10 to over 6 feet would choose. And that's if they DON'T like squatting and lunging. If they have EXCELLENT body mechanics, they would also want it lower.
THE MANAGER ACTED CLUELESS, when I brought this up, as if almost no clients ever complained about pressure. Impossible. He tried saying a maintenance person would look at it. But I could visually see that the table COULD NOT be lowered more once I looked underneath it. The hydraulic legs are encased inside wooden frames 😫 and I could see it was impossible for it to go any lower. The foot pedal to make it higher, did work to move the table UP more. So, no, not broken.
No therapist 5'5" or shorter has ever interviewed? Also Impossible. They absolutely would have lost it trying to explain. I certainly did.
When reviewing guest complaints with a therapist who works there, none of their LMT employees, over ALL these years and several different staffs, when confronted by management when guests complain about a lack of pressure, NONE explained it was due to lack of leverage, and how important table height is?
ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE.
They are in severe denial about this. LYING about this.
Again, fellow therapists, shorter therapists...don't waste your time interviewing. You would never expect a place this nice to have such outdated equipment and I could not have thought of this issue in a million years.
Clients, book elsewhere, especially for deep.
They would be better off with non hydraulic tables if they won't upgrade them. At least those can be manually adjusted.
PLEASE read this ESPECIALLY if you plan to try to book DEEP TISSUE massage here as a guest, and DOUBLE ESPECIALLY if you plan to interview at this spa as an LMT. This is critically important to an LMT if you are 5 foot 5 or under.
All of the 1 star reviews are correct. But some insight into why the massages are bad, from a bodyworker who interviewed here. Listen to me very carefully, potential clients and members. DO NOT PAY FOR deeper tissue or therapeutic work here, if you truly want any pressure at all. Just. Do. Not. As I am about to explain, it is impossible to get it at this spa for an absolutely egregious reason.
Unfortunately this joke of a property is using badly made, outdated massage tables that have not been manufactured since the mid 90s. And back then, bodywork and massage was just becoming popular in America. Therapists themselves were barely in existence up until the earlier 2000s. Especially in Arizona.
When therapists began giving input into equipment design LIKE HYDRAULIC MASSAGE TABLES, they are able to share information that helps manufacturers make better designs. Hydraulic table designs have updated themselves a handful of times over the years and just get better.
All this spa had to do is replace their tables from the 90s, just one time in the past 2 decades. Newer hydraulic tables (and I simply mean less than 25 years old....not NEW new), have a VERY wide range of heights. This is for many reasons.
Leverage for therapists providing deep work, so we can set the table at a height that both has proper leverage for us to use our core and legs to lean in with body weight (proper body mechanics), and also to provide proper pressure. I've worked at a handful of places and more so, have interviewed at SEVERAL. Even other places with older tables, they aren't THAT old. THEY CAN BE LOWERED.
Tables should also be adjusted lower for the client to get on and off the table, so they are not having to jump or slide off it. It should be easy for their feet to touch the ground coming off the table. Especially important for anyone with moderate mobility issues (elderly), or anyone shorter.
The table I was to give my practical interview on was AT IT'S LOWEST SETTING and was beyond too high for me. I'm not that short, I am 5'6". Many, many therapists out there are shorter than me. If you are a therapist who is about 5'4" or shorter, forget it. Take it from a therapist of 21 years...their lowest setting is the working settings that a therapist between 5'10 to over 6 feet would choose. And that's if they DON'T like squatting and lunging. If they have EXCELLENT body mechanics, they would also want it lower.
THE MANAGER ACTED CLUELESS, when I brought this up, as if almost no clients ever complained about pressure. Impossible. He tried saying a maintenance person would look at it. But I could visually see that the table COULD NOT be lowered more once I looked underneath it. The hydraulic legs are encased inside wooden frames 😫 and I could see it was impossible for it to go any lower. The foot pedal to make it higher, did work to move the table UP more. So, no, not broken.
No therapist 5'5" or shorter has ever interviewed? Also Impossible. They absolutely would have lost it trying to explain. I certainly did.
When reviewing guest complaints with a therapist who works there, none of their LMT employees, over ALL these years and several different staffs, when confronted by management when guests complain about a lack of pressure, NONE explained it was due to lack of leverage, and how important table height is?
ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE.
They are in severe denial about this. LYING about this.
Again, fellow therapists, shorter therapists...don't waste your time interviewing. You would never expect a place this nice to have such outdated equipment and I could not have thought of this issue in a million years.
Clients, book elsewhere, especially for deep.
They would be better off with non hydraulic tables if they won't upgrade them. At least those can be manually adjusted.
翻译：天哪，我该从何说起呢？
请务必阅读此内容——尤其是那些打算以顾客身份预约深层组织按摩的人，而对于那些打算以持证按摩治疗师的身份来这家水疗中心面试的人，则更要仔细阅读。对于身高5英尺5英寸及以下的治疗师来说，这点至关重要。
所有一星评价都是事实。不过，这里有一位曾在此面试的按摩治疗师，他提供了一些关于按摩质量不佳原因的见解。潜在的顾客和同事们，请务必仔细听好了。如果你真的希望接受按摩治疗的话，绝对不要在这里为深层组织按摩或治疗类服务付费。千万别这么做。正如我接下来要说明的，由于一个极其荒谬的原因，在这个水疗中心根本不可能享受到此类服务。
不幸的是，这家糟糕透顶的场所使用的是做工低劣且早已过时的按摩床——这类按摩床自90年代中期起就不再生产了。而在那个时期，身体按摩疗法在美国才刚刚开始流行。直到21世纪初，专业按摩师也还寥寥无几。尤其是在亚利桑那州。
当治疗师们开始对诸如液压按摩床之类的设备设计提供建议时，他们能够分享有助于制造商优化设计的宝贵信息。多年来，液压按摩床的设计已经历经多次改进，质量也越来越好。
这家水疗中心所要做的，就是在过去20年里仅替换一次90年代购置的按摩床而已。那些较新的液压按摩床（我所说的“较新”指的是使用时间不到25年……并非全新）。这些治疗床的高度范围非常广。原因有很多。
这样能让治疗师在进行治疗时获得更好的 leverage（作用力）。我们可以把治疗床调节到合适的高度：这一高度既能让我们借助核心肌群和腿部力量，以正确的身体力学姿势将体重施加到治疗部位，又能确保施加的压力恰到好处。我曾在几家机构工作过，甚至还面试过好几家。即便有些机构的治疗床比较老旧，其实也没那么旧。它们是可以调节高度的。桌子的高度也应调低一些，以便患者能够轻松上下桌子，而不必跳跃或从桌上滑下来。从桌上下来时，他们的脚应能轻松触地。这一点对于行动稍显不便的人（如老年人）或身材较矮的人尤为重要。
我进行实践考核时所用的桌子被调到了最低高度，但对我来说仍然太高了。其实我并不算矮，我的身高是5英尺6英寸。实际上，有很多治疗师的身高都比我矮。如果你是一名身高在5英尺4英寸或更低的治疗师，那就别考虑了。听一位有21年从业经验的治疗师一句劝吧……这款设备的最低档位，其实正是那些身高在5英尺10英寸到6英尺以上的人会选择的档位。当然，这是指那些不喜欢蹲下或做弓步动作的治疗师。要是他们的身体协调性极佳，甚至还会希望把高度调得更低。
当我向经理提起这个问题时，他表现得一无所知，仿佛几乎没有客户抱怨过压力设置问题似的。这根本不可能。他试图解释说会有维修人员来检查。但我从桌子下方一看就明白：这张桌子根本不可能再往下降了。它的液压支腿被包裹在木框里😫，显然不可能再往下移动半分。而那个用来升高桌面的脚踏装置确实能让桌子往上移动。所以，它并没有坏。
有没有接受过面试的治疗师身高在5英尺5英寸以下呢？根本不可能。他们绝对会在试图解释时慌乱失措。我自己就是如此。在与那里的治疗师一起 reviewing 客人的投诉时，这些年里，无论换了多少批员工，当管理层询问那些抱怨按摩力度不够的客人时，没有一个按摩师能解释这是因为施力不足，也没人能说出按摩床高度的重要性究竟有多大？
绝对不可能。
他们完全在否认这一点。还在对此说谎。
再次提醒各位治疗师们，尤其是身材较矮的治疗师……别浪费时间去面试了。你绝对想不到这么不错的地方会使用如此过时的设备，我无论如何也想不到会出现这种问题。
顾客们，请另选其他地方吧，尤其是做深层护理的话。
如果他们不打算升级设备，那用非液压式的护理床反而更好。至少那种床还能手动调节。
请务必阅读此内容——尤其是那些打算以顾客身份预约深层组织按摩的人，而对于那些打算以持证按摩治疗师的身份来这家水疗中心面试的人，则更要仔细阅读。对于身高5英尺5英寸及以下的治疗师来说，这点至关重要。
所有一星评价都是事实。不过，这里有一位曾在此面试的按摩治疗师，他提供了一些关于按摩质量不佳原因的见解。潜在的顾客和同事们，请务必仔细听好了。如果你真的希望接受按摩治疗的话，绝对不要在这里为深层组织按摩或治疗类服务付费。千万别这么做。正如我接下来要说明的，由于一个极其荒谬的原因，在这个水疗中心根本不可能享受到此类服务。
不幸的是，这家糟糕透顶的场所使用的是做工低劣且早已过时的按摩床——这类按摩床自90年代中期起就不再生产了。而在那个时期，身体按摩疗法在美国才刚刚开始流行。直到21世纪初，专业按摩师也还寥寥无几。尤其是在亚利桑那州。
当治疗师们开始对诸如液压按摩床之类的设备设计提供建议时，他们能够分享有助于制造商优化设计的宝贵信息。多年来，液压按摩床的设计已经历经多次改进，质量也越来越好。
这家水疗中心所要做的，就是在过去20年里仅替换一次90年代购置的按摩床而已。那些较新的液压按摩床（我所说的“较新”指的是使用时间不到25年……并非全新）。这些治疗床的高度范围非常广。原因有很多。
这样能让治疗师在进行治疗时获得更好的 leverage（作用力）。我们可以把治疗床调节到合适的高度：这一高度既能让我们借助核心肌群和腿部力量，以正确的身体力学姿势将体重施加到治疗部位，又能确保施加的压力恰到好处。我曾在几家机构工作过，甚至还面试过好几家。即便有些机构的治疗床比较老旧，其实也没那么旧。它们是可以调节高度的。桌子的高度也应调低一些，以便患者能够轻松上下桌子，而不必跳跃或从桌上滑下来。从桌上下来时，他们的脚应能轻松触地。这一点对于行动稍显不便的人（如老年人）或身材较矮的人尤为重要。
我进行实践考核时所用的桌子被调到了最低高度，但对我来说仍然太高了。其实我并不算矮，我的身高是5英尺6英寸。实际上，有很多治疗师的身高都比我矮。如果你是一名身高在5英尺4英寸或更低的治疗师，那就别考虑了。听一位有21年从业经验的治疗师一句劝吧……这款设备的最低档位，其实正是那些身高在5英尺10英寸到6英尺以上的人会选择的档位。当然，这是指那些不喜欢蹲下或做弓步动作的治疗师。要是他们的身体协调性极佳，甚至还会希望把高度调得更低。
当我向经理提起这个问题时，他表现得一无所知，仿佛几乎没有客户抱怨过压力设置问题似的。这根本不可能。他试图解释说会有维修人员来检查。但我从桌子下方一看就明白：这张桌子根本不可能再往下降了。它的液压支腿被包裹在木框里😫，显然不可能再往下移动半分。而那个用来升高桌面的脚踏装置确实能让桌子往上移动。所以，它并没有坏。
有没有接受过面试的治疗师身高在5英尺5英寸以下呢？根本不可能。他们绝对会在试图解释时慌乱失措。我自己就是如此。在与那里的治疗师一起 reviewing 客人的投诉时，这些年里，无论换了多少批员工，当管理层询问那些抱怨按摩力度不够的客人时，没有一个按摩师能解释这是因为施力不足，也没人能说出按摩床高度的重要性究竟有多大？
绝对不可能。
他们完全在否认这一点。还在对此说谎。
再次提醒各位治疗师们，尤其是身材较矮的治疗师……别浪费时间去面试了。你绝对想不到这么不错的地方会使用如此过时的设备，我无论如何也想不到会出现这种问题。
顾客们，请另选其他地方吧，尤其是做深层护理的话。
如果他们不打算升级设备，那用非液压式的护理床反而更好。至少那种床还能手动调节。
© 2026 Tripadvisor 版权所有。
部分照片由 VFM Leonardo 提供。
TripAdvisor公司对外部网站的内容一概不负责。优惠价格中不含税和其他费用。
ICP证：沪B2-20200433
沪ICP备20013175号
沪公网安备31010502005427号鹰程信息技术（上海）有限公司
